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11:57:09 PM    

A first move from testing to QA - teach other folks about testing.

Stefan Steurs, on the swtest-discuss list:

I have also given up trying to convince managers (some of them with very little hair indeed, you could say they have more hair than brains), it's not the right audience. I go for the bottom line, the developers. They need the help, the tools, the coaching, the explanation, the attention. Developers are the largest audience so my investment in persuading people will have a larger effect when I do it at this level. Developers are at least in 50% of the cases that I am encountering very willing to start using a test framework. They are willing to learn about test scripting, test data preparation, test reporting, because they realise it is going to serve them well. There is about 1 in 4 that doesn't seem to care and never will but I guess that Darwinism, as Boris calls it, will take care of them.

It's something I wasn't hired to do. I was hired to do system testing and to lead a team of independent testers but a couple of years ago I started realising it was such a waste of effort if all the testing I did would never lead to a cure. It's easy to deal with the symptoms. Getting the developers to properly unit, integration, or component test is the cure to long and expensive system testing cycles. Of course that fight is not over yet, more can and should be done.

Management is getting more and more supportive because they see results. Sometimes you have to steal some time to get these results but that's something they will forgive you.

11:46:42 PM    

ronpih I guess..., by Ronald Pihlgren. I'm always interested in reading about other people's experiences building and maintaining a test harness.   12:57:20 PM