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These are some of the collected messages that I've posted over on the Widownet Message Boards.
Topic: Loneliness - How Do You Get Used To It?
posted 04-22-2003 11:42 AM
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I just wanted to put in a male perspective and say that I can relate to all the same feelings of loneliness.

The feeling of being alone in a crowd of people. The feeling of disappearing or fading from view.

The forced realization that she's not here when I see other couples holding hands, or embracing. The longing to touch when I see couples with their arm around each other's back. Oh how I wish I could rest my hand on the shallow curve of the arch of her back (oops, I think I might be drifting off to that 'other' thread, sorry).

The empty feeling when you come home and there isn't anyone to share your thoughts and feelings. I think something happens to validate your feelings and emotions when they are expressed out loud to someone else. Instead they just roll around inside my head wanting to be expressed to someone who cares deeply about what I think and feel. I've tried telling the cats about my day and they are very attentive but they just don't take the place of my partner.

I hope that over time I can adjust to being one person instead of being part of a couple, and find ways to fill that huge void that is so big that sometimes it seems to be sucking my life away. I hope to adjust my feelings to a point where I can see couples and not have it trigger pain and longing, but some other more positive and enjoyable emotion.

It has been very hard for me to think about the future, and projecting my current feelings of loneliness on to the rest of my life only makes it harder to think beyond getting through today.

Just one man's thoughts.

Rod

Topic: The scent
posted 04-18-2003 01:13 PM
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Dream Angels


Topic: Removing your rings?
posted 04-18-2003 01:22 PM
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I tried switching it to my right hand and it felt funny. I would find that after a day or so it would somehow be back on my left hand though I don't remember switching it back.

I was so undecided that I would take it off for a while and then put it back on. Finally I took it off and put it somewhere. Where that was I can't remember I'm sure it was somewhere in the house but so far I haven't been able to find it. I'm sure (hope) it will turn up at some time when I least expect it.

Rod


Topic: Everyone looks old
posted 04-17-2003 02:06 PM
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I think I'm with Maggie on this, I have this feeling that I've somehow traveled 22 years in the past to when I first met Cindy. I get that same feeling, that everyone I find attractive is about the age we were back then, and when I look at the people my age they so much look older than Cindy did.

Rod

Topic: LYNDA'S RULE
posted 04-11-2003 12:33 PM
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This afternoon my oldest is in Orlando to compete in a figure skating competition. I sure wish I was there and not here at work! This evening my youngest and I will take in the Family Fun Night put on by her school and then head out to Orlando. My youngest will stay there with her friend to visit SeaWorld tomorrow. I drive back with my oldest so she can take part in a school band preformance Satruday morning. Saturday evening she's going to the Bat Mitzvah of a school mate. Then we get up way too early Sunday morning to go back to Orlando to compete in another figure skating event. The I collect both of the girls and head home. Hopefully we will get back home in time for me to get the yard work and grocery shopping done for the next week.

This being a "double parent" is the pits, it's getting to the point where I look forward to the work week just so I can get some rest

Rod

Topic: Do you feel them? Dream about them?
posted 04-11-2003 12:43 PM
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I've had several dreams with Cindy in them. I don't remember too much of what's going on but in all of them she is just there as if nothing has happened. Life is just as it was. In the most recent dream we are sitting on the couch reading or something when I seem to suddenly realize that she is back after being gone for so long and I tell here how she can't imagine what it was like when she was gone and we all thought she was dead. At that point I think I become conscious enough to realize that something isn't right and I wake up.

Rod

Topic: Is tomorrow my anniversary?
posted 04-10-2003 12:46 PM
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I think it is easier for me to maintain all those anniveraries as the day I married my daughters mother, the day their mother was born.

I do so well until I think about all that my daughters have lost, all the things they won't be able to share with their mother. Somehow I can deal with my loss, but I don't know how to deal with their loss.

Rod

Topic: Weekend Fun - You Won A Million In The Sweekstakes
posted 04-07-2003 08:56 AM
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I would quit my job and spend as much time as I could with my two daughters. I would take them to school every day, I'd go on their field trips, I'd volunteer at the school library. Basically I want to take over all the things that Cindy used to do. I would cook dinner every day, I'd clean the house, get a new roof, paint the outside, and fix the deck. I can't move to a new house as my youngest wants to live in this house for the rest of her life. She used to tell us that when she got married she was going to live in this house

Rod

Topic: One Year Ago Today......
posted 04-02-2003 11:56 AM
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(((((((((Snow))))))))))

Friday will be one year for my girls and I. We don't have any special plans for that day. My oldest has a school dance she's going to, and I thought I'd see if my youngest would want to spend the evening playing with one of her friends. I plan on having a quiet evening, maybe have a few glasses of wine and perhaps try to get the taxes finished.

I don't like dwelling on the things that hurt so much. Rather, I'd like to try and think about the good times we had together and somehow celebrate those times.

Rod

Topic: Missing his touch
posted 03-08-2003 07:42 AM

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Hi All,

The GM hit yesterday just when I thought I had control over it.

I'm one of those 6' and taller men and I agree that men and women all have the same feelings as we go through this process. The big difference I think is how the rest of the world perceives, or expects, men to go through this process. I don't think this is just what I am forcing myself to feel I think society in general expects men to be strong and not to show those emotions. I feel like it make 'them' uncomfortable if I show to much of my emotions.

The longing for touch has been tremendous for me. It the months immediately after Cindy died I would have given anything in the world just to have someone to hug.

I had a very close friend that came by almost every day the first few months and I can't tell you how much I looked forward to that little hug I got. The withdrawal I suffered when she stopped coming by was really hard to go through.

I found myself seeking out even the smallest touches. Touching the hand of the cashier at the grocery store as she gave me my change.

I feel like I have to be so extra cautious in my physical contact with women now that I'm single. Even close married friends that I never thought about hugging in the past, now I'm self conscious about having any physical contact.

I guess my point here is that even though men and women seem to go through similar experiences as we grieve our losses there are different societal pressures at force on us that makes these common experiences very different at times. I don't think either of us, men or women, have it any easier or harder. Although as I read through some of the things the women have to go through, sometimes I'm convinced that men have it easier, and other times, especially when the GM hits me I realize nobody has an easier time going through this.

Hoping for a better tomorrow.

Rod

Topic: Roll call for all the new members...

posted 03-08-2003 08:07 AM

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Hi everyone,

So sad to see all the new members, but so glad they were able to find this

most amazing group of people. I think I posted this on the last roll call,

but as with everything else I can't remember for sure, so I'll post it

again. Sorry it is so long, but I like to read it again every now and then.

My wife was killed in a car accident.

[Trimmed of duplicate post of story]

Topic: How long to accept?

posted 02-24-2003 08:29 AM

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I just finished reading the book I'm Grieving As Fast As I Can by Linda

Feinberg and she has some discussion about the roles of the conscious and

unconscious minds as we grieve that helps to explain why we have these

feelings you describe. It helped mee to undserstand how our brains try to

resolve these conflicts between what we know is true and what we are

feeling. It helped me to better understand why I'm feeling these particular

thoughts.

Rod

Topic: Valentine's Day

posted 02-14-2003 11:55 AM

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I'm trying to focus on all the happy Valentines days we had together. This

morning I found a card Cindy gave me last year. It made me remember her on

all those valentines mornings we had and I smiled.

I received a beautiful bouquet of flowers at the office and the card was

signed "Thinking of you - A Secret Valentine". I have no idea who it is

from. I would like to think this is a sign that there may be happy

Valentines days to come.

I hope we all can get through this day with fond memories and not too much

sorrow.

Topic: Clothes

posted 02-06-2003 01:47 PM

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I had all the close friends and family come over and with my daughters and I

we all went through Cindy's clothes to see if anybody wanted any. I did go

through the smiles and happy thoughts of remembering where we were last when

I saw Cindy wearing them.

One of the things I did was have one of Cindy's crafting buddies help be

pick out items that were made of fabric that would lend itself to quilting.

I plan on making a "memory quilt" using Cindy's clothes so my daughters and

I will have something to curl up in on the couch and feel Cindy and her

memory close to us.

Anybody have any good quilt ideas for this?

Rod

Topic: Auto Accidents - Can you relate?

posted 02-01-2003 05:54 PM

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Hi Denise,

First off ((((Denise)))).

I have many of the same feelings as you describe. One thing that has helped

me recently is getting the book I'm Grieving As Fast As I Can by Linda

Feinberg. It is specific to the grieving by "young" widows and widowers. As

I read it I keep finding myself saying YES that is exactly what I've been

feeling. It somehow makes me feel better.

For example for some reason I have started reading the obituaries when I

read the paper, except I don't actually read them I just look at the ages of

everyone. On days when everyone is in thier 80's or 90's I somehow feel

happy that there aren't any young people and that all these people lived

long and hopefully happy lives. I was excited to read in her book that this

is a common thing for young widows and widowers.

Your comments about seatbelts are mentioned a couple times in the book. You

might find it helpful.

Rod

posted 01-31-2003 11:06 AM

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(((LindaST)))

One of the what-if things my mind would do is think that perhaps if we had a

different type of vehicle this wouldn't have happened. That along with the

thoughts that had she been one second faster or slower he would have missed

them. One second.

Rod

posted 01-30-2003 08:50 PM

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I have recounted this story several times. I decided I should finally take

the time and write it all down. I apologize for the length of this story but

I felt I needed to put it into words.

My wife was killed in an car accident.

I was at work when my cell phone rang. The number wasn't one I knew so my

initial thought was it was a wrong number. I answered and I could hear my

younger daughterís voice. She was crying and there was all sort of noise in

the background. I could hear sirens. She said, "somebody hit us and we

rolled over and landed on the roof. My leg is broken." I don't remember what

else she said, I remember telling her everything would be all right and I

would be there as soon as I could. Someone else got on the phone and told me

where they were. They said that the little girl's leg was broken and they

were still working on the others. I immediately called my wife's cell phone

to let her know what happened. There wasn't an answer. I figured that my

daughter was in a car pool coming home from school. They said that they

weren't sure how the woman was doing. I was relieved that my daughter was ok

and tried to remember who would be driving the car pool car that day and

hoped she would be all right.

I left the information with the receptionist in case my wife called. I

headed out the door and started to drive to where the accident was. It was

going to take me at least 20 minutes to get there. It was when I looked at

the clock in the car that I realized it was too late in the day for my

daughter to be in a car pool. She was in the car with my wife and my other

daughter.

They were going to the ice rink so my daughter could get in one last

practice before her big competition the next day. They had picked my older

daughter up at school and were heading to the rink.

I called back the number and talked to someone who was at the scene. He said

they got both girls out and they seemed like they were going to be ok. The

told me that they were about to be flown to the hospital. He said he didn't

know how the woman was doing; they were still working on her. I tried to ask

but couldn't. Somehow though at that point I knew. I tried my best to drive

safely. When I got there the road was backed up for miles. I saw what looked

like a Sheriff's Department van going by in the shoulder so I pulled off the

road and followed it. I finally got close enough to the scene that there

were police stopping all traffic. I told them it was my family in the car

that was hit and they let me through and told me to park my car. I got out

and there was a group of police waiting for me. I could see our car in the

distance. It was upside down and had a big blue tarp draped over it.

They told me she was gone.

They took me away into a church near the scene.

I called the only person I could think of at the time, a very close friend

of my wife and I who was working just a few blocks away. The fire department

chaplain would take me to the hospital where my daughters were. As he drove

me to the hospital I remember feeling sorrow for the person who did this.

That person would have to live with what had happened for the rest of his

life.

I was still in shock at that point, and didn't really recognize what was

happening until I got to the hospital. I was at the desk when my friend got

there, and was relieved that at least now I had someone to help me, someone

to tell me what to do.

They brought us back to the trauma area were my daughters were. They were

still on gurneys and had just returned from having cat scans. It was the

most heart wrenching experience I can imagine. My two little girls lying

there, broken and bruised. Dirt in their hair, clothes dirty and torn, dirt

on their faces and in their mouths. They had their arms reaching up over the

sides of the beds holding each otherís hand. We tried to get a washcloth so

we could wipe their faces. My older daughter looks up at me with the most

helpless pleading eyes and asked, "What happened?î I told here there was an

accident.

They advised me not to tell the girls about their mother until my younger

daughter was out of surgery. She was going to have pins placed in her leg,

as the bone was completely broken. My older daughter appeared to only have

some bad cuts and burns, but no other serious injuries. She didn't remember

anything of what had happened.

It took several hours before they were ready to do the surgery. While we

were waiting for my youngest to get out of surgery they released my older

daughter. By then my wife's sister had arrived as well as her mom, and

several close friends. We were going to have to tell my daughter that her

mother had been killed. I was so overcome I couldn't speak. My wife's sister

was able to say the words.

I would have to tell my youngest the next day when she woke up. It was the

hardest thing I've ever done. There is no way to describe the pain of having

to tell your young daughter that her mother has died.

The other driver was an elderly man. The police investigated for several

months but there was no explanation for what happened. There was no alcohol

or drugs in his blood. He didn't have a heart attack or other health

problem. He says he doesn't remember anything. He was coming up to the

intersection and there were several cars stopped at the red light. He came

up fast behind the last car in the left turn lane and that driver could tell

he wasn't going to stop. She tried to get out of the way and he sideswiped

her car. He then crossed over the median and into the oncoming traffic lane.

He accelerated through the intersection and hit my wife's driver side door

going an estimated 50 mile an hour.

He wasn't wearing a seatbelt and was ejected from his car; thank god my

daughters were wearing theirs. My youngest later told me she remembers

seeing her schoolbooks and backpack flying by her face as the car rolled

over. She said she had to wake up her sister so she wouldn't die. She said,

"I tried to wake up mommy too, but she wouldn't wake up. At least I was able

to save my sister, that was good."

He was charged with speeding, running a red light and careless driving. For

some reason he pled not guilty, and therefore had to go to trial so he could

change his plea to no contest. He didn't show any remorse for what had

happened. The judge was rather angry with that and told the man that he

appeared to be more concerned about how this was affecting him and not about

how it had affected me and what was left of my family. He got the maximum

penalty, a $1000 fine, had to take a driving safety class and lost his

license for a year.

We are doing as well as can be expected. The girls have healed physically

and are back to figure skating. They are doing well in school both getting

straight A's. We have a tremendous group of friends and family that are

taking care of us and helping us survive this tragedy.

Topic: First Roll Call of 2003

posted 01-24-2003 02:11 PM

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Hi,

This is Rod and my wife was killed in an auto accident in April 2002. We

were married 21 years.

That's the short version, the long version can be found here.

http://radio.weblogs.com/0100146/stories/2003/01/30/myWifeWasKilledInACarAcc

ident.html

[ 03-13-2003, 11:18 AM: Message edited by: rkrato ]

Topic: It never occurred to me - photos

posted 01-16-2003 09:58 PM

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When I got to the accident scene they had just taken my daughters by

helicopter to the hospital and the car was draped so I couldn't see what it

looked like other than being upside down. The police immediately took me

into a nearby church.

Weeks later my attorneys asked if I could go down to the police garage where

Cindy's car was being stored and take some pictures before the car was

released to the insurance company, just in case the police didn't get

enough.

I said sure not really thinking about what it was going to be like. I

thought it would be ok as the police never found her cell phone and I wanted

to look for it in the car.

I took a bunch of photos and then spent a long time just looking at the car,

or at least what was left of it. Somehow seeing the damage to the car helped

me to understand how my daughters could survive, yet Cindy was killed

instantly. As hard as it was it helped answer some questions for me.

Topic: Widow Music

posted 01-13-2003 06:12 AM

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Peter Gabriel - I Grieve

It was only one hour ago

It was all so different then

Nothing yet has really sunk in

Looks like it always did

This flesh and bone

It's just the way that we are tied in

But there's no one home

I grieve...

for you

You leave...

Me

So hard to move on

Still loving what's gone

Said life carries on...

Carries on and on and on...

And on

The news that truely shocks

is the empty, empty page

While the final rattle rocks

Its empty, empty cage...

And I can't handle this

I grieve...

For you

You leave...

Me

Let it out and move on

Missing what's gone

Said life carries on...

I said life carries on and on...

And on

Life carries on in the people I meet

In every one that's out on the street

In all the dogs and cats

In the flies and rats

the rot and the rust

In the ashes and the dust

Life carries on and on and on...

And on

Life carries on and on and on...

Life carries on and on and on...

And on

Life carries on and on and on...

Just the car that we ride in

The home we reside in

The face that we hide in

The way we are tied in

As life carries on and on and on...

And on

Life carries on and on and on...

Did I dream this belief

Or did I believe this dream

How I will find relief

I grieve...

posted 01-13-2003 06:13 AM

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It Can't Rain all the Time - Jane Siberry and Graeme Revell

"Last night I had a dream.

You came into my room, you took me into your arms.

Whispering and kissing me, and telling me to still belive.

But then the emptiness of a burning sea against which we see

our darkest of sadness.

Until I felt safe and warm.

I fell asleep in your arms.

When I awoke I cried again for you were gone.

Oh, can you hear me?

It won't rain all the time.

the sky won't fall forever.

And though the night seems long,

your tears won't fall forever.

It won't rain all the time

The sky won't fall forever.

And though the night seems long,

your tears won't fall, your tears won't fall, your tears won't fall

forever."

Topic: WN Christmas Tree

posted 12-23-2002 11:53 AM

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Cindy collected snow men, and especially liked hand made ornaments, so we

put up hand made snowman. We also had a tradition of saving the 4 little

soldiers and the angel at the top for last. The soldiers are there to

protect the angel. Now we have an angel to protect us.

Rod

Topic: LYNDA'S RULE

posted 12-20-2002 12:27 PM

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Every year before Christmas Cindy would go all out decorating the house and

getting everything ready for our neighborhood Christmas Party. Everyone

brings a dish and we would always have tons of food. During the party the

mom's would take the kids out caroling (this is in Florida so the neighbors

were a little confused the first year or two), there would be an ornament

exchange for the kids, and Cindy just glowed with excitement and joy.

Tomorrow night will be our first party where Cindy will be there only in

spirit. It has been very bittersweet decorating and getting things ready.

I've had quite a bit of help from the neighborhood moms and still it has

been a huge effort to get things ready (I can't wait to win the Lottery so I

don't have to work any more) .

So this weekend I'll be cooking and tidying and generally getting everything

just the way Cindy would want it for our closest friends and neighbors.

Rod

Topic: Back to work

posted 12-19-2002 02:12 PM

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Hi Mike,

I had so much on my plate with my daughter's broken leg that I couldn't have

gone back to work that soon. It still felt like I was going back a little

too soon after 3 or 4 weeks (I can't remember exactly how long it was). I

find now though that going to work makes that part of the day somehow seem

more "normal". I'd do anything though to not have to work so I could spend

more time with my daughters.

Rod

Topic: She's in my dreams.

posted 11-11-2002 01:12 PM

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This has been happening to me for several months now. I'll have dreams and

Cindy is in them. In the first one there was a story on the news about her

death. I call her over to look and see the story where they think she's

gone. But she's not there anymore.

Last night she was driving us somewhere and I was in the passenger seat. I

think that somehow the conscious part of my brain starts to realize that

she's there and tries to reach out and make contact. This time even though

she's driving I suddenly realize that she's not dead and has 'come back',

and I am trying to touch her, give her a hug and hold her tight.

After having several dreams like this where Cindy is in the dream and she is

alive, and it's like she was never gone. In each one I suddenly seem to

realize how important this is, I think that the conscious part of the brain

gets too involved and that wakes me up and I don't get to 'finish' the

dreams.

Anybody else have these kinds of dreams?



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