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Friday, September 06, 2002

Microsoft readies SharePoint 2.0 collaboration platform. Software will be included in .Net Server OS [InfoWorld: Top News]

Other highlights of Version 2.0 include an object model for accessing SharePoint information and an XML SOAP layer.


8:25:41 PM    

Of course. Gordon is 1000% correct in noting that .NET DataSets will not interoperate with any other toolkit and questioning the author's motives. As Tim said in the other articles I listed "Consumers of this WSDL definition are meant to understand the special significance of this "well-known" URI—it is the four-part strong name of a specific runtime assembly included in the .NET Framework. This style of WSDL is great for clients that are implemented using .NET Remoting because they can generate a proxy assembly with the right information for marshaling. However, for other Web service toolkits—including ASP.NET—that do not understand this URI and expect to find a schema definition for the DataSet type, this WSDL will be useless."

I wanted to list the article for completeness next to the better MSDN articles for  those in a limited Intranet Microsoft type of solution who may want to do this internally. But yes, its really bad for Interop!


7:36:43 PM    

Sam Gentile: "they confuse the language with features that are actually available in the BCL." Thanks, Sam. That's definitely food for thought. I wonder if this is a title issue, or if it needs to be addressed at a lower level in the article? Can you publish a book or article on a Framework Class Library capability, use examples in one language, and let users of other languages figure it out? Or do you publish something that has examples in several languages? This is something I've thought about a lot. My preference with books is to see most of the examples in C#, and have a few VB.NET and Managed C++ examples lightly sprinkled on top. I'd like to here what other folks think. [Brian Jepson's Radio Weblog]

Well, with a title "C# Object Serialization" it is right away a title problem. ".NET Object Serialization Using C#" or something like that would be a step in the right direction. And then in the article, The important thing is to empahasize that the features are in the Runtime and BCL, and not the language. All .NET languages do is express the semantics of the runtime and the BCL. Period.  Drew makes the same point here.  Its a subtle thing some people think but it is fundamental to understanding .NET versus the "old way" of doing things. As for my preference, I know from growing with COM+ 2.0, then NGWS and then .NET, that C# is THE system language of .NET. I would prefer to see samples in that. I personally don't read anything that has VB.NET code in it but that's me and my opinion only. I, of course, have fondness for MC++, as you know, but realize it is too complex for samples and books in the general case.


7:25:23 PM    


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