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		<title>Dina Mehta: Pop!Tech 2005</title>
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			<title>Moving on - New Blog</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;This is my last post on this blog.  Radio Userland has served me well since I started blogging in 2003.  I will post more details on the transition, at my new blog - for now I just wanted to make this announcement, and provide the new url and feeds. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New Blog URL - &lt;a href=&quot;http://dinamehta.com/&quot;&gt;http://dinamehta.com/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;Subscribe via RSS 2.0 - &lt;a href=&quot;http://dinamehta.com/feed/&quot;&gt;http://dinamehta.com/feed/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Subscribe via Atom - &lt;a href=&quot;http://dinamehta.com/feed/atom/&quot;&gt;http://dinamehta.com/feed/atom/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Comments feed - &lt;a href=&quot;http://dinamehta.com/comments/feed/&quot;&gt;http://dinamehta.com/comments/feed/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The new blog will also be called Conversations with Dina - it&apos;s just a new blogging platform - but the same old blog!  I do hope you continue reading and feeding it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;My old blog will be archived at its old url (&lt;a href=&quot;http://radio.weblogs.com/0121664/&quot;&gt;http://radio.weblogs.com/0121664/&lt;/a&gt;) and I will keep the archives going.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://henshall.com/blog/&quot;&gt;Stuart&lt;/a&gt;, who has worked out the platform for Conversations with Dina on Wordpress has done some neato hacks - one that I love a lot is that the search function will not just search the new blog archives, but also my old Radio blog archives. And he has managed to transfer some of my posts over too. That&apos;s so cool!!!  Lots more needs doing there ... and that will emerge I&apos;m sure.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:56:59 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Creative Class in Mumbai</title>
			<link>http://radio.weblogs.com/0121664/categories/popTech2005/2007/03/22.html#a926</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creativemumbai.com/&quot;&gt;Ate Poorthuis&lt;/a&gt; is a student at the University of Amsterdam, and is writing a thesis on the creative class in Mumbai.  He wrote to me yesterday, in an email asking for help on a survey for Mumbaikars (I still prefer the term Bombayites :)).   It piqued my interest for two reasons .. why his interest in and selection of Mumbai ... and I remembered listening to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creativeclass.org/&quot;&gt;Richard Florida&lt;/a&gt; talk about the  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465024769/tokerudconsul-20&quot;&gt;The Rise of the Creative Class&lt;/a&gt;, at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poptech.org/&quot;&gt;Pop!Tech&lt;/a&gt; way back in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poptech.org/history/&quot;&gt;2004&lt;/a&gt;. He has subsequently written &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/006075690X/tokerudconsul-20&quot;&gt;The Flight of the Creative Class&lt;/a&gt;. Here&apos;s an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itconversations.com/&quot;&gt;IT Conversations&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail232.html&quot;&gt;podcast of his talk&lt;/a&gt; at Pop!Tech. &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-left: 40px;&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&quot;My name is Ate Poorthuis. I am currently writing my bachelor thesis at
the University of Amsterdam, the Netherlands. I am writing this thesis
on the creative class in Mumbai. In the last few years there has been a
lot of academic writing on creative cities and the creative class. The
definition of creative class in this context is very broad: it ranges
from architects, artists, teachers and writers to managers,
programmers, researchers and journalists.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;It struck me that all
research in this field is based on people and cities in North-America
and Europe. That is why I decided to write my thesis on Mumbai. I
cannot believe that Mumbai, with its artists, Bollywood, nightlife,
university and IT-industry, is not included in any research on the
creative class. With this thesis I want to shine some new light on the
subject and I hope to provide another perspective for the academic
field.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Since you belong to the creative class I want to invite
you to participate in a web survey. The survey takes only 10 to 15
minutes to complete and can be accessed from any computer with an
internet connection. The survey is completely anonymous. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Your e-mail address is not stored within this survey and cannot be
linked to your responses in any way. You can begin with the survey by
just clicking on the link below. I will be very thankful for your time
and effort.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;The survey can be found on: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot; href=&quot;http://www.creativemumbai.com/survey/index.php?sid=2&quot; rel=&quot;self&quot;&gt;www.creativemumbai.com/survey/index.php?sid=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;
             &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot; onclick=&quot;return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)&quot; href=&quot;http://www.creativemumbai.com/survey/index.php?sid=2&amp;amp;token=0194336514&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;If you have any further questions or are just interested in my research, just send me an e-mail or have a look at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot; onclick=&quot;return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)&quot; href=&quot;http://www.creativemumbai.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;script&gt;&lt;!--
D([&quot;mb&quot;,&quot;www.creativemumbai.com\u003c/a\&gt;. Also, feel free to blog about this research on your weblog and please do not hesitate to forward this e-mail to anyone that might be interested.u003cbr /&gt;\u003cbr /&gt;Kind regards,u003cbr /&gt;\u003cbr /&gt;Ate Poorthuis (u003ca onclicku003d&quot;return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)&quot; hrefu003d&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:mailto:atepoorthuis@creativemumbai.com&quot;&gt;mailto:atepoorthuis@creativemumbai.com&lt;/a&gt;&quot;\&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:atepoorthuis@creativemumbai&quot;&gt;atepoorthuis@creativemumbai&lt;/a&gt;u003cwbr /&gt;.comu003c/a&gt;)u003cbr /&gt;Student Human Geography, University of Amsterdamu003cbr /&gt;The Netherlandsu003cbr /&gt;\u003ca onclicku003d&quot;return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)&quot; hrefu003d&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creativemumbai.com&quot;&gt;http://www.creativemumbai.com&lt;/a&gt;&quot; targetu003d_blank&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creativemumbai.com&quot;&gt;http://www.creativemumbai.com&lt;/a&gt;u003c/a&gt;\u003cbr /&gt;\u003cbr /&gt;------------------------------u003cwbr /&gt;----------------u003cbr /&gt;Click here to do the survey:u003cbr /&gt;\u003ca onclicku003d&quot;return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)&quot; hrefu003d&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creativemumbai.com/survey/index.php?sid&quot;&gt;http://www.creativemumbai.com/survey/index.php?sid&lt;/a&gt;u003d2&amp;tokenu003d0194336514&quot; targetu003d_blank&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creativemumbai.com&quot;&gt;http://www.creativemumbai.com&lt;/a&gt;u003cwbr /&gt;/survey/index.php?sidu003d2&amp;tokenu003cwbr /&gt;\u003d0194336514u003c/a&gt;\u003cbr /&gt;\u003cbr /&gt;\u003c/div&gt;&quot;,0]
);
D([&quot;ce&quot;]);&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;//&quot;&gt;//&lt;/a&gt;--&gt;&lt;/script&gt;www.creativemumbai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;.
Also, feel free to blog about this research on your weblog and please
do not hesitate to forward this e-mail to anyone that might be
interested.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Mumbaikars .. or Bombayites .. whichever term rings better with you, do spread the word and take the survey .. it made me reflect on why I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gulfnews.com/yoursay/yoursay/10048685.html&quot;&gt;love this city&lt;/a&gt; with all of its 20 million people and why I believe there is no place like this anywhere on earth, no matter what some people say by calling it the&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.readersdigest.ca/mag/2006/07/polite.php&quot;&gt; least courteous city&lt;/a&gt; ! &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:12:29 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Blog Housekeeping</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;I finally got around to doing some
housekeeping on my blog. Have edited the categories and links - am
hoping they will render alright.  The nice thing is each of them
acts as a separate blog - so readers can subscribe separately to
specific categories that interest you! &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Here they are - links and RSS feeds
:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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			<title>Pop!Tech 2005 category </title>
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			<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;All my notes from Pop!Tech 2005 are &lt;a href=&quot;http://radio.weblogs.com/0121664/categories/popTech2005/&quot;&gt;on this page&lt;/a&gt;.  I will share reflections on my take-out from this conference later. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
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			<title>Robert Trivers - Neuroscience and Self-Deception in War</title>
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			<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://attendee.poptech.org/info/content.php?page=speaker_detail&amp;amp;id=193&quot;&gt;Robert Trivers&lt;/a&gt;
uses neuroscience to talk about the self-deception that led to the Iraq War.  Warfare is very
conducive to self-deception. In the animal and plant kingdom, deception
is part of the arsenal of any virus, bacteria, protozoa etc that use
deception to attack. If a deceiver is rare, it is more effective, as
the deceived cannot predict the deception. &lt;br&gt;
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Deception within species was not first recognised ... but now a wide
representation of studies on it. Sexual deception in fish, frogs,
insects leads to reproduction.  False alarm calls by birds hunting
food. Another example, ravens show a consciousness of deception in
their food cacheing.  &lt;br&gt;
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In a complex co-evolving world, between deceivers and those
perpetuating deceptions, self-deception comes into play. 
Self-perception is subject to internal manipulation to give a feeling
of confidence. Language while it accelerates our ability to make true
statements, also enables false statements.  Likewise,
belief-systems.  Studies have shown how our mind can affect how we
perceive ourselves and the world. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Memories are biased - psychologists have done significant work in this
area, but the judicial systems are slow in adopting these
systems.  Where memory can be inserted into the mind.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
In the context of war, lets consider selective forgetfulness.  How
many remember 1956 -  Saddam was our boy.  1982 - a truly
tragic and immoral decision to support Saddam and Iraq to go to war on
Iran. 1991 - we kick Iraq out of Kuwait.  &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
To generalise the discussion on self-deception and war, there is a
background to human warfare, which can be seen in chimpanzees. Features
of modern warfare that makes it conducive to self-deception -- low
history, ignorance is high, overlapping self-interest is low, little
negative feedback - you can practice self-deception at home and be
caught out - not when it is another nation. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
We know that the arguments for war are baseless today.  All
assertions made turned out to be false.  Consequences of this war
on bogus grounds ... one thing psychologists have shown ... when you
plan to do womething, you are more rational in your thought patterns
... in a down state ... not euphoric or happy then ... but once you
sign on and decide you are going for it, your mood goes up, you feel
euphoric, overconfident.  The bitch is there was no planning with
the war.  The administration just jumped at it.  And then had
to justify their action. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Self-deception leads to two things -- leads you into disaster, then
makes sure you don&apos;t have the tools to deal with what you have done to
yourself. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The good news is that we really have a good opportunity to put together
a broad theory of self-deception.  The bad news is that the forces
of deceipt and self-deception are really very powerful. &lt;br&gt;
   &lt;/font&gt; &lt;br&gt;
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			<title>The Scandal of Prediction - Nassim Nicholas Taleb</title>
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			<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poptech.org/speakers.cfm?page=speaker_detail&amp;amp;id=184&quot;&gt;Nassim Nicholas Taleb&lt;/a&gt;
says we tend to treat knowledge as personal property, as something we
own.&amp;nbsp; This is self-deception.&amp;nbsp; He encourages us to play a
thought experiment - using traders as an example. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Assume fair odds (50% chance)&lt;br&gt;
Year 1 : 1 mn&lt;br&gt;
Year 2: 500,000 successful ones&lt;br&gt;
Year 3 : 250,000&lt;br&gt;
Year 4 : 125,000&lt;br&gt;
Year 11 - about 1000 geniuses ... just by luck!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
You can try and explain these things logically, you can rationalise it
all.&amp;nbsp; Books like Lessons from the Legends of Wall Street, The
Millionaire Mind, Secrets of the Millionaire&apos;s Mind make it all seem so
easy. In one of these books, one of the fallacies in the finding that
millionaires take risks, is that the author doesnot take note of the
fact that bankrupt people take risks too.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
He takes on calibrations of 2% error rates - in tests he has conducted,
it has been shown that the 2% error rate can actually be as high as 80%
and not 2%. Hehe - higher error rates among MBA students than Math
students!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Our bodies of knowledge are swelling, but we all have this disease of
error rate.&amp;nbsp; The confidence in this knowledge we think we know may
well be a fallacy.&amp;nbsp; When you look at the future, and ask people to
predict the future, we have this tendency to tunnel and ignore events
that may happen infrequently but which have impact on the
outcome.&amp;nbsp; The most accurate predictors are weather analysts,
economists hide it well, and security analysts perhaps the worst !&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Sydney Opera House is a monument to a human disease.&amp;nbsp; It was
scheduled to open 10 years before and cost much less than it actually
did. Planning fallacy.&amp;nbsp; Because we tunnel.&amp;nbsp; Very few projects
are completed on time, because while they can plan it very well, they
don&apos;t take account of unpredictable elements.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The reason --- &apos;The Black Swan&apos; --- for a long time, everyine thought
all swans were white, because all the swans we saw were white.&amp;nbsp;
But in Australia, we found black swans. Much of what happened in
history is determined by Black Swans and not White Swans.&amp;nbsp; Their
contribution is cumulatively huge, but noone notices it. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
He shares some more tests on Bloomberg reports to show how surveys are less accurate than an analysis of prior experience. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
A forecast has no validity unless you know the error rate.&amp;nbsp; It is
getting harder and harder to forecast, particularly in social science,
as complexities are increasing daily.&amp;nbsp; He doesnot say we shouldnot
or cannot forecast, but we must try a little less self-deception in
forecasting.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
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			<title>Barefoot College - Bunker Roy</title>
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			<description>&lt;br&gt;Solar Women engineers in Tilonia, India? Not much needs said about Bunker Roy&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.barefootcollege.org/&quot;&gt;Barefoot College&lt;/a&gt; - except that he makes me proud to be Indian.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
He ends with this quote from Mahatma Gandhi : &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot; class=&quot;huge&quot;&gt;&quot;First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<title>Cameron Sinclair - Design Like You Give A Damn</title>
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			<description>&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://attendee.poptech.org/info/content.php?page=speaker_detail&amp;amp;id=154&quot;&gt;Cameron Sinclair&lt;/a&gt;, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldchanging.com/&quot;&gt;Worldchanging &lt;/a&gt;colleague,
is on talking about how to create architecture that helps the
world.  What can I say except that he is absolutely
inspiring.  Just go &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.architectureforhumanity.org/&quot;&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;and
you will know why.  It is great to hear from someone who isn&apos;t
just talking but walking the talk, and &quot;Design(ing) Like You Give A Damn&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:49:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Nicholas Negroponte  - the $100 laptop</title>
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			<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://attendee.poptech.org/info/content.php?page=speaker_detail&amp;amp;id=159&quot;&gt;Nicholas
Negroponte, &lt;/a&gt;professor at MIT and founder-chairman of the Media
Labs on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://laptop.media.mit.edu/&quot;&gt;$100 laptop
project&lt;/a&gt;.
23 years ago, they tried computerising schools in Senegal - but it
didn&apos;t work.  In Costa Rica (3.5 mn people) however, it has
been really successful - the poster child for the MIT Media Lab. 
He got involved in sending used computers to Cambodia. This stopped ...
and instead they started building schools and not just sending used
computers. Satellite connections were put in, laptops were set up,
generators were set up.  Kids started taking their laptops
home and parents loved it, because suddenly they had a source of light
(no electricity otherwise). The first English word many of them spoke
was Google!&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Today&apos;s
laptops are so loaded ... he takes us back to the old days
when they were so quick, so easy and so reliable to use.  His
question - do we really need it.  Some things to reduce cost -
remove colour mode on the LCD screen and use B&amp;amp;W with high
resolution,
or low res colours.  Has to be on a very low power budget - below
2 watts.  E-books must be below 1 watt. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
They needed scale - not as much to take down costs -  but to
change the strategic plan in companies offering the service --- when he
told them he needed 100 million chips - the company making the chips
did an about-turn on their initial hesitation that it doesn&apos;t meet
their business strategy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;November 16, 2005 is when it will be shown at the Vatican for the first
time. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wow.  I hope they have India in their roll-out
plans.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;</description>
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			<title>Yochai Benkler - Open Source &amp; the Future of Sharing</title>
			<link>http://radio.weblogs.com/0121664/categories/popTech2005/2005/10/22.html#a708</link>
			<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://benkler.org/&quot;&gt;Yochai Benkler &lt;/a&gt;leads the session on Participation Revolution by talking of the
demarcation between producers and consumers in the Industrial
Information Economy.&amp;nbsp; And then moves onto the Networked
Information Economy.&amp;nbsp; Described as decentralised and widely
distributed - in terms of computation and communications resources as
well as human creativity, intuition, experience and motivational.&amp;nbsp;
What this means is that things people have always done with and for
each other, move to commons based productions, can be individual or
collective, commercial or non-commercial.&amp;nbsp; A self-feeding
contract. The other major development is we are seeing large-scale
collaboration - eg. peer production using social cues rather than
command and control. And sharing material resources.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Examples - &lt;a href=&quot;http://clickworkers.arc.nasa.gov/top&quot;&gt;Clickworkers &lt;/a&gt;for NASA, Wikipedia, &lt;a href=&quot;http://dmoz.org/&quot;&gt;Dmoz,&lt;/a&gt; Skype, open source software, Craig&apos;s List, Technorati. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Social sharing and exchange is becoming the modality of economic
production. You have stuff flowing out of connected human beings,&amp;nbsp;
Your supply and demand chains are different now - they are determined
by &quot;Surfers&quot;.&amp;nbsp; And they input back.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
He then talked about the Politics of it - of autonomy, of freedom and
justice, of democracy.&amp;nbsp; As a result - new business challenges and
opportunities, and new ways of being free and equal human beings. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;A rousing &quot;you can&apos;t stop us&quot; end to the presentation. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;A good paper by Yochai Benkler -&lt;a href=&quot;http://benkler.org/SharingNicely.html&quot;&gt; &quot;Sharing &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://benkler.org/SharingNicely.html&quot;&gt;Nicely&quot; &lt;/a&gt;.[link posted in the chatroom by Greg Elin].&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;h3&gt;&lt;font style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;Nothing
so new, but useful to the audience here.&amp;nbsp; I was talking to someone
during one of the breaks and describing how we have used tools like
blogs and wikis and VOIP in disasters and for research projects - and
they seemed to want to hear more about how these systems are changing
the way we transact today.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:48:52 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Petition - Right to Blog</title>
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			<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Peter send this out - this follows the IIPM vs bloggers issue. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family: arial;&quot;&gt;The &quot;Right to Blog for Awareness&quot; petition is up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family: arial;&quot;&gt;
&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family: arial;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family: arial;&quot;&gt;Please go read, and 
if you agree, sign at&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family: arial;&quot;&gt;
&lt;a style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family: arial;&quot; href=&quot;http://www.petitiononline.com/blogbang/petition.html&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.petitiononline.com/blogbang/petition.html&quot;&gt;http://www.petitiononline.com/blogbang/petition.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family: arial;&quot;&gt;
&lt;br style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family: arial;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family: arial;&quot;&gt;There&apos;s 
a lot at stake here, especially for bloggers in India.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;tt&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;Is an interesting juxtaposition having just listened to &lt;a href=&quot;http://rconversation.blogs.com/&quot;&gt;Rebecca &lt;/a&gt;talk about Chinese censorship at Pop!Tech.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
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			<title>How China is Changing the Internet - Rebecca Mackinnon</title>
			<link>http://radio.weblogs.com/0121664/categories/popTech2005/2005/10/21.html#a706</link>
			<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rconversation.blogs.com/&quot;&gt;Rebecca MacKinnon&lt;/a&gt; who runs &lt;a href=&quot;http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/&quot;&gt;Global Voices Online&lt;/a&gt;
is on, talking about &quot;China and the Internet - The change goes both
ways ...&quot;.  She tells a story about a village of about 150
peasants has a website - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pusalu.com/&quot;&gt;http://www.pusalu.com/&lt;/a&gt; - started small as an
alerts sort of site (UFO sightings for eg) and has now evolved to a
community portal which actually has changed the world for the community
there with vocational guidance and involvement from the community.  This is one
example that reflects how important the internet is to the Chinese
Government, in bringing about change in rural areas. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Lots of examples of Chinese folk moving to the internet - Muzimei&apos;s blog
where she discusses her sex life, Super Girl Li Yichun - selected by
fans to win a contest, Yang Chengang who stuck his first song on the
internet  - &quot;I love you just like Mice Love Rice&quot; -  and has
become a heartthrob, with no official &apos;gatekeepers&apos; interfering.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Result - more empowerment in China as a result.  The world&apos;s
second largest Internet user base.  10% global PC demand, 15%
global handset demand are in China. More than 5 mn blogs, over a fifth
Chinese internet users use internet bulletin boards, over 200 billion
SMS&apos;s sent in 2005. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Proliferation of Chinese content on the internet is driving growth
throughout the world, despite a crackdown by the govt, where bloggers
are supposed to register with the government.  It&apos;s a contradiction
of sorts - it&apos;s to do with understanding the censorship culture in
China.  They don&apos;t clamp down on sex bloggers and mp3 stars, but
on political commentary and emergent leadership.  Keywords are
blocked - Tiananmen Massacre for instance is blocked on Google. Blog
service providers have to provide censorship for bloggers. Soft
censorship. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;The Chinese internet community isn&apos;t just keeping up with what&apos;s
happening in the USA.  It is innovating. And leading changes. egs.
Mobile Blogs, Podcasting etc.   These companies are able to
be agile and innovate  because they are building censorship into
their platforms. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Concluding thoughts and questions :&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&quot;Code is Law&quot; - Larry Lessig.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;As software codes are being written in China - what implications
on Western business models, what implications on freedom of speech in
other countries.?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Can we prevent censorship from being baked into the model and code?&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;/font&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;
A really thought-provoking presentation from Rebecca.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
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			<title>People Place and Planet - Maximum City </title>
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			<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Suketu Mehta is talking about my city.  Bombay.  He is reading portions from his book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.suketumehta.com/&quot;&gt;Maximum City&lt;/a&gt;.  I wish he had images of the city to enrich and bring alive his words. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;I have read half the book on my flight in - and I was struck by how
true and real many of his experiences and observations are. These are
some facets he has written about - I feel conflicted - the question I
find I am asking myself is, which part of Bombay do I live in. 
What is my space there?  And we might find more facets emerging. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Update : In the Q&amp;amp;A - Suketu tells us that he flies out tomorrow to
India, to file a Public Interest Litigation against the Government on
how little they are doing for beggar children.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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			<title>People Place and Planet - Mark Lynas</title>
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			<description>&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marklynas.org/&quot;&gt;Mark Lynas - High Tide&lt;/a&gt; talks of
rapid geological changes, and how rapidly they are happening.  He
makes predictions on what impact global warming will have, in a new
book he is writing called Six Degrees. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;

Predictions based on degrees of global warming - &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;One degree - Code Blue -- temperature rise, coral reefs gone.  Nothing can be done to prevent it. &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;/font&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Two degrees - Code Green - we can prevent it.  Will lose the Sunderbans.  &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;/font&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Three degrees - Code Yellow - by 2050 a third of all species
extinct.  The ice sheet in Greenland will melt and disappear
altogether.  The beginnings of runaway global warming. To avoid
it, need to make great changes&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;/font&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Four degrees - Code Orange - decline of Sea Ice, all of marine ecosystems at the poles gone&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Five degress - Code ? - the Hindukush, source of the Indus river
will be dry.  Rainforests may turn into deserts.  Countries
like Pakistan threatened. Ice shelf collapse in the Antartica. &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;/font&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;
Good &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marklynas.org/photos/&quot;&gt;photographs &lt;/a&gt;from High Tide.  And more on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/&quot;&gt;global warming&lt;/a&gt;,
a link someone shared in the chat.. Mark&apos;s message to us ... take this
seriously, make it political,  if we have to survive not just as a
species but also as a planet. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:54:27 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ze Frank Rocks the Audience</title>
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			<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://zefrank.com/&quot;&gt;Ze Frank&lt;/a&gt; who was here last year too, is smokin&apos;...&amp;nbsp; thousands of miles above us, with his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.warman.demon.co.uk/anna/inflight.html&quot;&gt;Inflight Safety Page&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:32:57 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Its Alive - You&apos;d never believe it</title>
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			<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://attendee.poptech.org/info/content.php?page=speaker_detail&amp;amp;id=163&quot;&gt;Theo Jansen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strandbeest.com/&quot;&gt;builds &lt;/a&gt;mechanical
creatures that walk on beaches!  Beach animals, whose knees sag,
some who die out in minutes.  And who have mechanisms to guard
against being blown away by the wind. They gather sand at the end of
their tails, and each day when they retire, they unload this sand back
on the beaches.  Probably changing its topography :). He demos a
beach beast to us on stage .. the motion is so incredibly smooth. 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;They&apos;re having fun in the chatroom, thinking up new applications for
these animals - Star Wars killer bots, New Orleans Flood Navigators,
Starship trooper bugs. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Amazing stuff. And a real treat listening to him. A wild
combination of mad scientist and artist. Check out some of his animal
movies &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strandbeest.com/movies.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,66356,00.html&quot;&gt;Wired had a nice article&lt;/a&gt; on his work. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:05:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>It&apos;s Alive - Living Technologies</title>
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			<description>&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://attendee.poptech.org/info/content.php?page=speaker_detail&amp;amp;id=171&quot;&gt;Norman Packard&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.protolife.net/&quot;&gt;ProtoLife&lt;/a&gt;,
who is working in the areas of chaos, learning algorithms, predictive
modeling
of complex time series, statistical analysis of evolution, artificial
life, and complex adaptive syste is talking about Living
Technologies.  He starts with the question - What is Life ? Life
requires self-maintenance, self-reproduction and evolvability. He
defines living technology as tech that is defined and enanced by its
life-like properties. egs he gives - social engineering, ecological
engineering, synthetic biology and even the internet. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;He gives the example of Synthetic Biology - two approaches - top-down
and bottom-up. And shares his experience with a bottom-up project he is
involved in.  &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;What&apos;s interesting to me is the central concept of giving up
derivability and learning to harness emergence.  I think some of
these concepts are being embraced by the internet and its social
nature.  We came close with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://radio.weblogs.com/0121664/categories/blogsBlogging/2005/05/29.html&quot;&gt;Tsunamihelp experience, &lt;/a&gt;and evolving with each effort around recent disasters. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:36:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Its good to be back at Pop!Tech</title>
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			<description>&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Its great to be back in Camden Maine and at
Pop!Tech.  I got here yesterday, and it is so wonderful to see this
little town being filled out by people from all over the world for this
very special event.  Was stopped by a few locals and asked is it
Poptech
time already!  It was good to meet familiar persons, and many more
new friends at the Cocktails yesterday.  Did some Mehta-Mehta
bonding with Suketu (Maximum City) Mehta&apos;s proud parents and ate lots of mussels. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Its the first session here and Andrew Zolli is back on stage, in his
inimitable style. This session today is about &apos;Seeing What&apos;s There&apos;.
The &lt;a href=&quot;http://attendee.poptech.org/info/content.php?page=speaker_detail&amp;amp;id=149&quot;&gt;first
presentation&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gigapxl.org/&quot;&gt;Graham Flint&lt;/a&gt;,
was great from a technical viewpoint of how you can take some amazing
photographs with super-high resolutions - the big benefit being you
can interact with the image.  There would be privacy and legal
issues of course, and this was raised in the Popchat dialogue.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://attendee.poptech.org/info/content.php?page=speaker_detail&amp;amp;id=164&quot;&gt;Dr.
Robert Hanner &lt;/a&gt;took
us through one of the grand challenges of biology - what&apos;s truly out
there - how many species - 10 mn ? 100 mn ? And how DNA Barcoding
species would also have social implications by helping democratise
access, make it available, and as a result, bring us so much closer to
the species. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Interesting question from a lady in the audience on how, having seen
what is out there, how do they plan to preserve civilisation. The
answer from the speakers -- we dont know how good the storage
mechanisms are. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;And, I liked this quote from one of the presentations ... so just
reprinting it here:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&quot;Research is to see what
everyone else has seen and to think what nobody else has
thought&quot;&amp;nbsp;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Albert SzentGyorgyi. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Ethan is liveblogging Poptech &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:54:52 GMT</pubDate>
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